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Cpt Branko
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Posted - 2008.06.20 10:42:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 20/06/2008 10:43:46
Originally by: Blind Jhon
liang you are in right but, do you understand thet the only way to have a "decent" tank on a tempest whitout say goodby to your damage is a shield tank
The Maelstorm does this infinitely better, and without fitting mods.
If the Tempest was at least more agile then the Mega/Hype/Raven/etc, then the 'speed and agility' comments would hold water.
You kill speed by armour rigging it (wether rep amount/speed rigs, or trimarks), anyway, and it's agility is horrible to begin with.
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Posted - 2008.06.20 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Trojanman190
I don't necarily agree that the the pest needs a better rof bonus, I think the guns themselves need to be boosted, but the point is that all these dudes think that capless turrets are some huge huge advantage. The capless bit would be nice if the turret's themselves didn't suck.
Or if cap didn't suck. I run a dual-rep Tempest (mostly for gatecamping and such, fights vs smaller stuff, wouldn't take it for BS on BS action ever) with dual neuts, it's constantly verging on capdeath (with a T2 heavy injector) with max skills. People parroting about capless weapons tend to forget that Minmatar cap sucks to begin with and is only a true advantage on plated setups (which preferably don't run neuts, something which is a significant remaining asset of the pest for swatting smaller stuff), where cap injection isn't mandatory (even though it's still damn nice).
I never understood the point of having more shield HP then armour; or having crap agility (which is, I agree, not massively useful on a BS, but, hey, it'd give it more 'minmatar' character even though it's not a significant boost) on the Tempest.
As for buffing large ACs: it would be nice (and necessary to actually make the ship in league with the Raven/Mega/etc), but I still think more dronebay (125m3-150m3, so you're not stuck with only one set of drones and can use heavy drones plus a set of lights or mediums) and more bandwidth (100m3, to give it the ability to field 4 Ogres, doesn't make it a drone ship) would give more encouragement to use the Tempest over the Typhoon (which is good because it's a torp/drone boat with ACs as an afterthought), or Maelstorm (which reminds me of 'flying' a huge station gun, but does solid DPS thanks to 3 gyro setups and 4 Ogres).
A big NO to changing the bonuses. Without double damage bonuses, its DPS would suck, and it would be actually worse at most ranges (even when kiting) if one of the damage bonuses was switched to falloff (hey, hitting 70% of the time with 700 base DPS or hitting 90% with 550 DPS?). No need to make the ship resticted to sniping or sucking even worse then now.
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Posted - 2008.07.23 10:49:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 23/07/2008 10:50:58
Originally by: AstroPhobic
This is where racial flavor stabs you in the foot. In a perfect world, everything would be balanced. Minmatar's strong points do not favor the larger ship classes, at all. They do favor the smaller ship classes, however this is not a balancing point. Instead of saying "2bad, u guys have vagabond", inject some MORE flavor into minmatar. If they're not doing well in the BS class, give them more mobility, give them their middle range, and give them a chance to have a role in this game. Making them gwarrr gank + buffer tank ships will never fly, so I suggest we embrace our slightly faulty racial flavor and use it to enhance our battleships.
The only issue is that Minmatar BS barring the Typhoon (even that partially) get no racial flavour whatsoever; they don't get Minmatar agility, and their speeds are not that much better (particularly for the Maelstorm which is horribly slow and feels like a Caldari ship pre-agility buff with autocannons, very un-minmatarish). Even the Typhoon isn't all *that* agile, even though its speed is rather awesome. The Tempest handles the same way a Megathron or a Hyperion does, with only a minor speed boost. So it loses the Minmatar flavour, and gets, in return, nothing.
That said, I rather like the Tempest - even though it lacks in raw damage, has no agility advantage, and has more shiled HP then armour HP on a typically armour-tanked ship (wtf is up with that?). It's supposed to be versatile (well, it sortof is, but we could improve on that)? Give it more dronebay so you can have spare sets of drones for different things, you didn't boost it's hp/dps but gave it more all-around usability.
Yes, large ACs are meh, but just fixing them wouldn't really fix the Tempest.
Also: role of 'small ship killer' with a tracking boost (currently, a Mega outtracks you), and with fixing EMP L to give equivalent damage to MF / AM, would be nice large AC boosts.
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Posted - 2008.07.24 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
Not sure if I was being entirely clear; I know that minnie BS don't have good speed or agility at the present, this is what I was suggesting to be buffed.
Yeah, I figured you do want that. I was just pointing out how far it is from the current situation.
Originally by: AstroPhobic
I do realize that blasters outtrack ACs, however they dont have the effective range that we would have after an optimal boost. While it still might not be "enough" to track cruisers etc, this is why I suggested a small painter boost, to make use of one of our lovely utility slots, as they're currently silly things like cap boosters or ECCM(Seriously, who jams a minnie BS?).
Gallente do have enough effective range to fire on cruisers, hello Null L & disruptor range. Small painter boost? Are you joking? Anyway, currently the Megathron is the best anti-cruiser BS, with dual-heavy neut Tempest being second because of the, well, dual heavy neuts, albeit has much much harder time hitting one.
Also: cap boosters / eccm are not silly (cap boosters and eccm are awesome. ECCM is doubly awesome, takes care of pesky ECM drones and helps against jammers. All my ships which are for actual combat fit ECCM.). Trading them for target painters would be .
Also: big optimal for ACs? No thank you. Want to give ACs anything, you can always give them more falloff. Or just give them more tracking.
Fixing the ship for both BS on BS combat (where Minmatar need to be competitive, else there's no point in flying a Minmatar BS over others), boosting their preformance vs small stuff (read: tracking boost) and giving them flavour, yes. Giving them just flavour and target painter bonuses is the single most idiotic idea I've ever heard regarding minmatar BS.
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Posted - 2008.07.25 10:20:00 -
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I don't see the Tempest ever slugging it out with the best BS out there, unfortunately, but improvement from its current (bad) state would be good.
How about a number of small fixes: - gave tempest 25m3 more bandwidth (to make it 100m3, provides somewhat more damage) and more dronebay (spares, gives it more usability as it could switch to, say ECM drones, or warrior IIs)
- switch its shield and armour HP (more eff HP for normal armour-tanked setups, shield tanked gank ones are for silly people who didn't notice the existence of the Maelstorm)
- give large ACs more tracking (more usability vs smaller things, the Tempest is actually preety bad vs small things compared to a, for instance, Mega)
- cut its align time a bit (agility should be a Minmatar trait, having the same agility as Mega/Hype is bad (it would enable it to keep at range better as well)
- slightly (say, between 5% and 10%) improve its capacitor (helps if you run a tank where you have issues even with a T2 heavy cap injector*, helps a lot if you use neuts in spare highslots which are arguably the most interesting spare highslot choices for a Tempest)
Imo, it'd be a bunch of small fixes with a good overall end result. It'd probably go a long way towards fixing the Tempest by giving it more all-around usability while (somewhat) improving its performance vs other BS. Also, none of the suggestions can be disputed as overpowered (in fact, many of them are purely logical such as armour HP / shield HP switch).
*assuming dual-LAR tank with a rep speed rig+2x rep amount rigs while running point/web/ECCM (or sensor booster or whatever), which is the standard way to fit it.
I have no idea what to do about artillery.
Originally by: To mare +10% powergrid to fix the tempest
Which does absolutely nothing for AC fits. Stop trolling.
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Posted - 2008.07.25 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Boz Well I don't really see any changes that would help our BS out, with the possible exception of the web nerf, and that's debatable.
Tbh, web nerf nerfs all the BS (vs smaller stuff, and rightfully so) except that it leaves a few of our ships boosted compared to their competition as we have the slots for double webs.
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Posted - 2008.07.25 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Boz Well I really don't think you can call it a buff atm, as at least to me it's still very fuzzy.
I agree. At any rate, tons of factors into play there (we'll see how standard ship fittings will develop) so it's hard to say anything.
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Posted - 2008.07.29 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
So tell me, how many people have stopped training minmatar and moved on to another race? Alts included. I already have. To amarr, of course.
I've only decided to sell my non-Typhoon Minmatar battleships (obvious Tempest's speed/agility nerf plus the web changes make it less valuable as a smaller ship ganker now, and the Maelstorm is a stationary turret anyway), train for Gallente T2 frigs, and reduce my training to generic supports for now (Drone interfacing V, Assault Ships V, a few of the speed skills, some more armour compensations, T2 HAMs + buffing my missile supports for the Minmatar ships using them as a extra weapon system, etc.)
So, basically, I'm in the perfect position to cross-train, because while I like the Minmatar T1 lineup, and the AFs, I don't see much of a point training up anything else. So generic supports for me for the time being and no new toys.
Long term, the Minmatar skills I have will probably pay off in another boost cycle. Plus, I can cross-train easy, would take me less then a month to get in a Harbringer with T2 guns, and when I finish up T2 hams, I'm only cruiser III away from flying the Drake nearly perfectly anyways. If I had focused my training on the Vaga/Rapier I'd be preety messed up now probably.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
Give me a good reason to train minmatar, other than aesthetics.
Autocannons have a incredibly cool sound.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 01:46:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 30/07/2008 01:49:25 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 30/07/2008 01:46:41
Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: AstroPhobic
Give me a good reason to train minmatar, other than aesthetics.
Autocannons have a incredibly cool sound.
Foiled.
PS. I hear its... 1200 scouts? That have the best artillery sound. I forget which one. It should be applied to all arties.
I don't fly with sound though...
D180s with a 2+gyro config are pure loving sound-wise. 1.87s rof or less, it's just a constant stream of fire ;)
Nothing beats saying "Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my autocannons." on vent
I remember killing a offline pos with a 6-gyro setup, had a carrier feeding me ammo. Occasionally I'd stagger my ACs and just shove the speakers into the mic so the entire gang can hear the lovely sound ;) Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
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Posted - 2008.08.01 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 01/08/2008 13:57:48
Originally by: Transmaniacon Lets see if we can make it to 1400, in light of the current topic
Over 9000!
Anyway, I sortof expected Minmatar BS to be best off agility/speed wise after the proposed changes, but unfortunately they got shafted the hardest (if we talk about percentages). Annoying, but I'll live with it. Brushing my torp skills for the phoon up atm, in about two months I'll be able to fly a extremely mean Typhoon (yes, I stupidly trained large T2 ACs first, but oh well). I mean, a Raven is better for most things (or, rather, anything except RR-ing or having free mids for ECCM and stuff) but I can live with the Typhoon, and I'll just keep the Tempest/Maelstorm to look preety in my hangar (I've always used the Typhoon for the actual 'hard' fights anyway).
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Posted - 2008.08.04 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: Aleus Stygian Wait, wait... We're... talking guns here... and throwing radioactive slag at people... and then in comes this sweet... thing and starts talking in a way that makes the rest of the... and what...?
Did you call me cute?!
/disbelief off
Dude... I hear she has her own apartment. Maybe she's into robes and wizard hats?
Oh man, this thread has been on-rails for 35 pages. It needs to follow the natural order.
Well, I really think that a page of shitpoasting is in order after 35 pages of being constructive and occasional Lyria.
Also, this was the cutest thread derail ever. I approve of it.
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Posted - 2008.08.04 08:39:00 -
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Liang, stop derailing the thread.
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Posted - 2008.08.04 15:21:00 -
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Selling Minmatar ships?
Hey, I have a Tempest+Maelstorm, I'll use them for what they're best at. Hangar spinning, yarrr
Seriously now, I'm deeply in love with the Typhoon atm, because at least it doesn't suck horribly ;)
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Posted - 2008.08.04 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
I don't have the kind of funds to look at ships in my hangar I don't use.
Ahh. We can fix that. (1) Join our nice (lots of Minmatar pilots) pirate corp. (2) Kill stuff. (3) .... (4) Buy a lot of hangar queens to look at while you're still flying a Hurricane because it's actually cost-efficent
Also, I liked this thread better when it was derailed.
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Posted - 2008.08.04 20:32:00 -
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But Minmatar characters get to wear cool shades.
Also, did I ever mention how projectiles make a sexy sound when fired at a high rof?
On top of this, we get a battleship with sails. Sails, man.
Should be enough to balance any race tbh.
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Posted - 2008.08.04 21:13:00 -
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Seriously. The Tempest should have webbing resistance. I mean, you can web some silly engines, but it's got sails ;)
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Posted - 2008.08.04 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 04/08/2008 21:39:26
Originally by: Liang Nuren
If CCP let me hoist the jolly roger on the Tempest's mast, I'd stop complaining. :)
-Liang
I see that working fine actually
Also, larger ACs need a buff, D425s sound way better.
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Posted - 2008.08.04 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
I want a hello kitty skin for my rupture... or rifter/jaguar. Like the kessy one posted ages ago.
I lost my faith in you now.
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Posted - 2008.08.04 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
It would be cute! Of course jolly roger skin would be secondary...
Well, that works.
There is a certain sort of charm in murdering someone in a hello kitty painted ship, when I think about it. It's definitely more humiliating ;)
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Posted - 2008.08.04 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 04/08/2008 22:11:35 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 04/08/2008 22:06:35
Originally by: Amandin Adouin Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 04/08/2008 22:04:57 lol, Hello Kitty? This thread is becoming the place to chat about everything and anything. Everyone's doing it . Speaking of everyone, where's Boz Well? I haven't seen him around too much lately. I feel like the party isn't complete .
While you've been discussing Hello Kitty sails over here, I've been busy arguing about the fate of democracy as a whole over in the off topic forum . This seems a bit backward. Isn't the off topic forum supposed to be where you go to relax and shoot the shit after discussing important Eve issues in the ship forum?
But we've discussed all the issues, now we're just going for the postcount.
Besides, Astro is funny
Also, wb to this thread, we missed you.
Of course, if you want to re-start constructive discussion again, sure thing.
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Posted - 2008.08.04 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Amandin Adouin
Originally by: Cpt Branko
Also, wb to this thread, we missed you.
Thank you . I needed to hear something nice after my crappy day at work. *hug*
No worries. Tempest threads, the place you go to chill and relax after a hard day
What happened, anyway?
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Posted - 2008.08.04 22:48:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 04/08/2008 22:48:27 Astro, you're not trolling, I actually think your suggestion about Minmatar ship skins (as long as the jolly roger style is available) are perfectly valid ways to improve the Minmatar race
Hey Boz Anyway, I'm going to log on and hop in my Rifter now to relax a bit ;)
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Posted - 2008.08.05 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Neutrino Sunset Lol, a vertical Phoon with the hole at the top really would look like a flying trash can.
That'd be actually funny ;)
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Posted - 2008.08.05 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic It's too thin. I'm telling ya, diagnal phoon will ****. Especially if launcher hardpoints ever get fixed... imagine a line of 4 torps.
But being melted by a trash can would be pure win :)
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Posted - 2008.08.12 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 12/08/2008 21:53:14 Well, at least they finally said something (and showed they can, in fact, read), which makes me very happy.
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Posted - 2008.08.12 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Originally by: Cpt Branko I just hope they fix the totally murdered agilities of Minmatar ships next.
That won't happen.
I base this on nothing.
So Minmatar BS agility should be worse then everyone else bar Amarr now?
Seriously, we need lighter duct tape.
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Posted - 2008.08.14 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: EpicFailTroll
Oh hai. Im a little troll. Bubbles do not exist, you never need to get back to gates, or get in range, ABs are fully viable and look, I just trolled your thread.
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Posted - 2008.08.14 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ranvaldy
So stop whining about projectile turrets or i dont care get ur buffs but then i want our cap buffs(more cap+recharge to amarr ships) too sounds fair right ?
(a) Amarr ships already have more capacitor and more capacitor recharge. (b) Cap injectors are your little friend. Yes, with sufficent neuting you can shut them off, but with using all those slots for DPS, you can gank the ship anyways. (c) Regardless of capacitor, having ships which outdo other ships at any ranges is imbalanced.
I mean, sure, give everyone more cap&cap recharge, and give us 30% more DPS, and that's fine.
Furthermore, let me tell you about a ship which (just like Amarr) outdoes ours at any range, requires no cap to fire, does very high DPS, and can be fit with full tackle and stuff while having a comparable tank to Minmatar. That's, like, balanced?
And, yes, we're talking about the Raven.
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Posted - 2008.08.14 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ranvaldy
Oh ye strongest when u have like shitloads of SP+Perfect cap skills etc.
Having your cap skills to V takes only a month, and it is a de-facto prerequisite for effective PvP. Have you ever heard about overheating? Now all of us have to have energy menagement V.
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Posted - 2008.08.14 03:28:00 -
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Originally by: EpicFailTroll
Oh, hai. I'm talking about Vagabonds in battleship threads, but at least my name is very true.
You know, you're not even funny anymore.
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Posted - 2008.08.15 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Transmaniacon Ok guys, heres the plan. At fanfest, get some devs really drunk and then trick them into signing a contract confirming they will give Minmatar some love. But don't worry, our plan is safe here
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Posted - 2008.08.15 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
W00t! minmatar derailing their own threads?! Brilliant! My job is done here.
It's all about the post count.
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Posted - 2008.08.15 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 15/08/2008 16:49:23 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 15/08/2008 16:49:01 1337th post!
Also, just in order to be useful, I like Astro's ideas about optimal midway between blasters and pulses.
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Posted - 2008.08.15 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Derek Sigres
Should have had a shorter post - I beat you two it with 3 characters!
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Posted - 2008.08.15 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Derek Sigres
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: AstroPhobic Past the amarr recon thread? Check.
Next objective... more pages than the EFT thread.
Yep. So, which of the graphs did you like?
-Liang
Incidentally, the graphs are a little hard to make out. They all exhibit a strange "spike" at point blank range but I can't tell if that's a sudden increase in DPS or if the lines are indicating something else - any ideas?
I think it's the web applied.
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Posted - 2008.08.15 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
If you download python, numpy, and matplotlib, download the source (available in the same directory), and delete the # in front of show() at the bottom.. (jeeze)
Python, the language of the heathens and the unwashed masses (well, and EvE too).
Gief formulas and I'll menage. I hate you for suggesting I do it with python, though.
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Posted - 2008.08.15 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ghengis Tia I have a dream, that when the nano-nerf goes in, artillery will be buffed.
Sure would be nice if it were anything more then a dream.
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Posted - 2008.09.02 10:07:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 02/09/2008 10:07:21
Originally by: Sharupak Edited by: Sharupak on 01/09/2008 21:35:03 Nah, minmatars will just find some other "broken mechanic in the game to exploit" we always do.
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